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	<title>Comments on: Dealing With Those Pesky Narks</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Sam Montreal Marketer</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-410479</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Really like the Fake Hosting tactic. Can be useful to hide or at least keep a white hat sites network as low profile and under the radar as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really like the Fake Hosting tactic. Can be useful to hide or at least keep a white hat sites network as low profile and under the radar as possible.
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		<title>by: Payday Uk</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-392129</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I will never your idealist thoughts. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never your idealist thoughts. Thanks
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-345119</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice seo tactics. But I don't see you posting more. Maybe you are actually carrying out these tactics. Write more!

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice seo tactics. But I don&#8217;t see you posting more. Maybe you are actually carrying out these tactics. Write more!</p>
<p>Ben
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		<title>by: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-341039</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You have become my fav SEO guru man. Hats off to you...hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have become my fav SEO guru man. Hats off to you&#8230;hahaha
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		<title>by: Winner Reales</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-337644</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great post once again. I use frames and iframes anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post once again. I use frames and iframes anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.
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		<title>by: rider</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-335019</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I feel safer now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel safer now..
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		<title>by: Secrets to Dog Training</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-331800</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-331800</guid>
					<description>Great post once again. I use frames anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post once again. I use frames anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.
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		<title>by: Hendrik</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-295391</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You have greates idea Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network? Very crafty indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have greates idea Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network? Very crafty indeed.
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		<title>by: Palm Coast Coupons</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-225123</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i love the idea of your own hosting company to get your own complaints... brilliant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love the idea of your own hosting company to get your own complaints&#8230; brilliant
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		<title>by: oleg seo</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-222530</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>as always great post.. keep it up... digg... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as always great post.. keep it up&#8230; digg&#8230; lol
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		<title>by: Who</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-219397</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would suggest some chinese based server providers such as: http://www.7x24.cn/english/en-dedicated.htm or any other.

These chinese people really don't care about spam complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest some chinese based server providers such as: <a href="http://www.7&#215;24.cn/english/en-dedicated.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.7&#215;24.cn/english/en-dedicated.htm</a> or any other.</p>
<p>These chinese people really don&#8217;t care about spam complaints.
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		<title>by: david deangelo</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-203320</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Very crafty indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very crafty indeed.
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		<title>by: latecoe</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-162719</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-162719</guid>
					<description>Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network?
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		<title>by: Eli</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-10268</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Excellent Comment!

Thanks for dropping that by us.
To answer your questions
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Now do you think …
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt; 2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?&lt;/strong&gt;
Absolutely not. Shared hosts would gladly drop a client to save the server and to save face with the datacenter. Its just common sense business. Thats why spammers consider it vital to prevent as many complaints to their host and their hosts datacenter as possible. Spam profits come from two factors, &lt;strong&gt;Flow&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Lifespan&lt;/strong&gt;. Flow is how much consistant money the spam is making over a given period of time. The lifespan is how long the spam will continue making money before it gets shut down. Increasing any of the two factors decreases the potential of profit loss on a spam project. If you can't be bulletproof than you are forced to deal with percentages. If its inescapable that the project will die after 7 days than you have no choice but to attempt to increase the flow percentages per site to increase profits. Likewise if you're dealing with a fixed flow than you have no choice but to do everything possible to increase your lifespan. Only a certain percentage of tech bloggers (not to single them out) will do a ipwhois. If you weed out the others(the ones who report directly to the host) than you are increasing your chances for a higher &lt;strong&gt;lifespan&lt;/strong&gt; across your spam network. Which means more profits.

The reality of the situation is no one is untouchable (with icann running the show at least). So you can understand from a spammers point of view of why its worthless to worry about the ultimate goal of becoming bulletproof. Percentages are where the money is at, not the dream of being untouchable. Every successful blackhatter in the world will tell you quantity is the golden key to blackhat. That is because creating a continuous quantity of sites is the closest a spammer can come to having an infinitely lifespan with the obvious constringent of continual reinvestments of course. Its this misconception that feeds untrue ideas like, "Blackhat is temporary." "Blackhat is for a quick buck."
To dig at what I really thinking you were poking at is the statement in the post that says "&lt;strong&gt;Your hosting is never the wiser and still happy because they don’t have to hear about your complaints."&lt;/strong&gt; To put your mind at ease, that was written in a joking way. It obviously wasn't meant to get ppl thinking that if the host found out what was going on they will be happy about it because they didn't have to read any of the spam complaints. I think its pretty obvious that they will be quite pissed as a matter of fact. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Comment!</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping that by us.<br />
To answer your questions<br />
<strong><em>Now do you think …<br />
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?</em></strong><br />
<strong> 2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?</strong><br />
Absolutely not. Shared hosts would gladly drop a client to save the server and to save face with the datacenter. Its just common sense business. Thats why spammers consider it vital to prevent as many complaints to their host and their hosts datacenter as possible. Spam profits come from two factors, <strong>Flow</strong> and <strong>Lifespan</strong>. Flow is how much consistant money the spam is making over a given period of time. The lifespan is how long the spam will continue making money before it gets shut down. Increasing any of the two factors decreases the potential of profit loss on a spam project. If you can&#8217;t be bulletproof than you are forced to deal with percentages. If its inescapable that the project will die after 7 days than you have no choice but to attempt to increase the flow percentages per site to increase profits. Likewise if you&#8217;re dealing with a fixed flow than you have no choice but to do everything possible to increase your lifespan. Only a certain percentage of tech bloggers (not to single them out) will do a ipwhois. If you weed out the others(the ones who report directly to the host) than you are increasing your chances for a higher <strong>lifespan</strong> across your spam network. Which means more profits.</p>
<p>The reality of the situation is no one is untouchable (with icann running the show at least). So you can understand from a spammers point of view of why its worthless to worry about the ultimate goal of becoming bulletproof. Percentages are where the money is at, not the dream of being untouchable. Every successful blackhatter in the world will tell you quantity is the golden key to blackhat. That is because creating a continuous quantity of sites is the closest a spammer can come to having an infinitely lifespan with the obvious constringent of continual reinvestments of course. Its this misconception that feeds untrue ideas like, &#8220;Blackhat is temporary.&#8221; &#8220;Blackhat is for a quick buck.&#8221;<br />
To dig at what I really thinking you were poking at is the statement in the post that says &#8220;<strong>Your hosting is never the wiser and still happy because they don’t have to hear about your complaints.&#8221;</strong> To put your mind at ease, that was written in a joking way. It obviously wasn&#8217;t meant to get ppl thinking that if the host found out what was going on they will be happy about it because they didn&#8217;t have to read any of the spam complaints. I think its pretty obvious that they will be quite pissed as a matter of fact. <img src='http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: host</title>
		<link>http://www.BlueHatSEO.com/dealing-with-those-pesky-narks/#comment-10260</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let me comment from a web host's perspective: 

If the hosting company is not willing to take action, you can just do an ipwhois lookup and contact the datacenter's abuse department directly. 

From our experience, phishing sites or compromised hosting accounts sending spam usually get shut down very quickly - within hours. (That's of course provided that the server is not located in Russia or China.)

How it works: once they receive a complaint, the datacenter's abuse department will contact the owner of the server (hosting company) requesting to shut down the offending account within 1-24 hours (depending on their policies) or in some cases will even attempt to login to the server themselves and disable the site. If the host does not take action, the datacenter will simply disconnect the whole server or null-route the IP for terms of service violation.

Usually even if a minor complaint is received, the datacenter's abuse staff will still pass the information on to the hosting company. 

Now do you think ... 
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?   
2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me comment from a web host&#8217;s perspective: </p>
<p>If the hosting company is not willing to take action, you can just do an ipwhois lookup and contact the datacenter&#8217;s abuse department directly. </p>
<p>From our experience, phishing sites or compromised hosting accounts sending spam usually get shut down very quickly - within hours. (That&#8217;s of course provided that the server is not located in Russia or China.)</p>
<p>How it works: once they receive a complaint, the datacenter&#8217;s abuse department will contact the owner of the server (hosting company) requesting to shut down the offending account within 1-24 hours (depending on their policies) or in some cases will even attempt to login to the server themselves and disable the site. If the host does not take action, the datacenter will simply disconnect the whole server or null-route the IP for terms of service violation.</p>
<p>Usually even if a minor complaint is received, the datacenter&#8217;s abuse staff will still pass the information on to the hosting company. </p>
<p>Now do you think &#8230;<br />
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?<br />
2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?
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