Nice post eli,

that sounds much more like black hole, you are right.

I think no one said something cause you told us a few postings before that you wouldn’t tell us all your secrets and we have to think about it by ourself.

On the other hand perhaps we are all addicted to you and aren’t thinking by ourself cause you do this for us *hehe*

regards,

RRF

P.S: Did you received my email?

Nice little post but there is one thing that I would like to argue about and that is you say to use the site: operator when you want to see if that page is still indexed, if the page is still indexed then you don’t want to use it.

I prefer to use double quotation marks when checking to see if an article is in the search engines or not, for instance if I do a search for “I wonder if this would actually work” and it brings back results I know that I could end up getting a duplicate content penalty for using such an article.

My point to this is that if you use the site: operator the page may very well not show up and no longer be indexed in the search engines, however the article still very well be indexed and you could still end up with a duplicate penalty.

Just a little something more to add to this post if anyone didn’t already know that about the search engines.

Oops my above comment was meant for the original Desert scraping post, I should have been looking at the titles more closely.

Very nice way to snag some content. But i have to protest! On behalf of the codey squirts like myself, i must they that i bet there are people who would like to buy a script to do this and people like me who like to code and sell their creations. But, you didn’t give the squirts a heads up so that we could have the product all ready.

I will be creating mine very soon, but is not done yet .

Eli,

Awesome indeed. I hope your squirt members will be getting the tools to do this . It will be a great help for us non programmers.

ahahahahah you’re evil Eli ! Also Pool.com offer a good free list of expiring domains in csv format.

I probably wouldn’t use any adsense ads that I scraped using this technique. I’d be too afraid that I’d grab up pages that were against Google Adsense TOS and were just sitting there like a time-bomb waiting to go off.

I’d have to have something else I could slap in those spots based upon the dimensions of the ad block.

Thanks for the step-by-step.

Good suggestion.

Doesnt the longevity of this depend upon how the SE’s treat subdomains?

Would a network of unrelated content on a single domain but flagged as spamn when coupled with the pace that something like this could be put together?

Additionally won’t google be paying more attention to subdomains at the moment following the publicity over eBay subdomain spam?

Not suggesting this wont work (im way too much of a noob to have any clue), just curious about how quickly it will be blacklisted.

I don’t think Google can do anything against subdomains.

After all, if they ban a subdomain because another subdomain on the same domain did something bad, all blogspot blogs will be banned in no time, and so are all free hosting sites that use the host’s subdomain.

Push it a bit further– assuming the content expired relatively recently– grab the content URL– check for links via yahoo. Grab the domain name of any IBL’er– run it through a WHOIS database query (I’d make an exception in my script to ignore wordpress, blogger, domains– maybe dump them into a text file that you could do something with later (like look for a “contact us” page on their site). And then send out a friendly email to the linker. Let them know that the content in question has moved to a new location. Be friendly, assure them that you just didn’t want them to have any dead links on their site.

omg LOL Paul, that was genius

Social Engineering for teh w1n.

yes……please?

hell– if I am going to spill all the beans. Put a meta robot “no index, no follow” tag on the content. Keep checking the deleted/expired domain in the SERPS– wait for the content to vanish from the SERPs– and on the same day have your robots tag disappear.
That should help anyone who has issues with the “duplicate content issue”

again- if you don’t script a little proggie for all of this (or have a programmer do it for you) you are out of your mind.
Something tells me our friendly-neighborhood Eli will have a script for sale which (hopefully) does all of this for you.

You’ve finally driven me to learn how to code Eli. I could always pay someone to do it, but I think I’ll be better off in the long run actually knowing how to code a system like this.

Turn the orphaned content database into an RSS feed…give it to a network of blogs or a few WP MU domains via autoblog plugin… hmmm…

Dammit Eli, I already have like 10 firefox tabs with your posts while I try these techniques.Slow down!
I’m going to Opera now for personal surfing and FF for bluehat articles.

Well, you’re not really grabbing just any expired domain, if you were smart, you’d grab very targeted subdomains. For instance if you were doing mortgage loans, you’d go through the list of expired domains, grab alll the sites that have mortgage in their title for instance, and add those to your list of subdomains to add.

So, you’re not grabbing 100,000 expiring domains. You might only grab 10-20 or 200-300 a day. Depends on how specific you want to be in your drill down into a niche.

Impressive technique

Very creative idea. I am definitely going to test this out when I get a chance to sit down and write the programming for it… or find a competent programmer on eLance to do it for me

Eli, what do you mean by: ” exploiting natural traffic demand generated by article branding?” ?

Good question. It will be answered in a future post, but to give you an idea.. It’s when an article, piece of media, or video becomes popular and quickly produces it’s own search volume and “traffic demand.” For instance, how many times has Leeroy Jenkins been searched before that video came out? <-ooo thats a good example, I’ll use that in the post.

Thats an example of natural traffic demand generated by branding.

Lee..roy Jenkins !

Thanks for expanding on that Eli.
Another question.
This technique doesn’t seem to take into account the “authoritative” part that the 1st post talked about. In the 1st one, we were scraping authority sites like looksmart and wikipedia, using “The Wayback Machine”. On this one, we’re scraping any ‘related’ expired domain content.

The content will still be unique, but don’t we lose the authoritative part?

That is definitely true. Perhaps compensation could be made by looking at the alexa ranking 1 year ago.

Authoritative domains generally don’t expire. So if you got a site that had a high alexa ranking, that means it was more than likely pulling in good search traffic. Thus authoritative content.

great post again Eli,thxs a lot
now i just have to figure out how to get that running,damn how i hate i cant code shit,yet :p

I must say that is a brilliant idea, but seems like a time consuming one, as not all deleted domains would be working websites. Infact I think 90% of deleted domains are tasted ones, acquired on impulse.

Hence automating the entire process. Thus– you aren’t wasting your time.

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Alright, I say Eli is still holding back on this one. The current Pool.com expiring domain list has 150k names on it. This covers around 5 days, so that’s 30K new names each day.

I can’t believe he’s doing 30K hits on archive.org each day. Personally I would try to filter the list down to 250 or so names that are likely to have content before turning to archive. I gotta believe you’re filtering the list first.

Secondly, I did a hundred or so random checks of expiring names that looked interesting. Only a handful that had been archived all of those were crap. Nothing I would consider worthwhile for “re-publishing.”

The point is although this is a nice thought, there is way more too it. The real roadblocks are 1) getting the original list down to a reasonable number and 2) of those that return content, how to tell if the content is actually valuable.

I would think the end goal would be to find 5 quality sites a day, but the trick isn’t what this post reveals…it’s how to find those 5 out of 30K.

Matt, you are starting to think like a pro.

Some ideas:
- targeting other zones than .com that have less/no tasting it can help a lot too!
- using a dictionary (as wide as possible) to flag domains that have at least an english word in it, so that you avoid the crappy domains containing only random characters

elhoim,

why even bother with a dictionary? You are, in theory, creating niche content sites on somewhat specific topics, right? Use an API call to your keyword tool (I know Wordze can do this) to generate a list of keywords within the specific niche you are building for. Run that list past MattC’s 30k expiring domains and you’ve developed your short list.
As for content value- running a links query in a SE is a decent place to start, but it should by no means be the only thing you do. Hell– you could check the document for authoritative-y (new word) structure (title tag/header/sub-headers). If the content has JUST expired– take the title tag of the document and see if it ranks for at least the document title.

I never have any idea how to do the things you recommend, but they really are ingenious. When are you going to cash out and invest in real estate or something?

Ok, so are you talking about grabbing domains/content from sites that capitalized on “natural traffic demand…” that are now expired?
So sites that had good search ‘juice’ for instance for “William Hung” or “LEEroy Jenkins”.
Am I on the right track?

Second, I ran across this site gets 5 billion pages index by goole POST. Was that you Eli?
:>

What happened? Havent seen any updates in a while. Not that Im complaining or anything,..lol. And whats up with the spam crap?

Post going up tonight.

Eli you always amaze! I have been working non-stop ever since coming across your gold mine of a blog. Your techniques are always orginal and thought provoking, yet sometimes they are just common sense spun with a genius twist.

Thanks for Helping…

If my first born son wasn’t already named Eli… I might have considered it after stumbling upon your blog.

Cheers…

WOW.. awesome post..

very cool,.. great blog btw,. thanks!

I’m sure Google’s “Cached Version of a page” can be used for something like this too. Here’s my thinking: If a website has just been deleted, then it will still be shown in Google for a while. In the SERPs, google shows a link to the cached version of the page. If the real link to the page from Google’s SERPs returns 404, but the cached version shows a page, then hasn’t Google just given you a page of text that used to rank in google but no longer exists in the SERPs?
So, anyone know how to mine all these pages from Google?

Ok, I worked it out and here is how to do it:
(1) Go to NetworkSolutions.com which will give you a CSV file of domains that are expired. Download this file and open in Excel
(2) Go to an SEO website that lets you check the pagerank of multiple domains in one go. To find one of these, search for “Multiple Domains Page Rank Tool”
(3) Copy a bunch of domains from your Excel file into the lookup tool and you will be given the Page Rank of all of them. If you find a good tool it will let you check the pagerank for several hundred domains in one go. If you find a bad one it will limit you to 100 at a time and have a Captcha.
(4) Sort the list of domains and pageranks into PR order, and for each one with a PR > 0 do a SITE:domain.com lookup on Google. (You will soon see that only a few have a PR > 0 )
(5) For each page that google returns, look at the Google Cached version of the page. If this differs from the actual version you see if you try to browse the page, then grab the content of the page quick before Google drops it from its cache!
Congrats, you now have a bunch of content that is soon to become unique…

Couple questions/observations…

1. What’s the point of this checking the PR, backlinks, etc? None of those are going to transfer to you obviously, so are you just thinking of it as a method to filter your list of junk?

2. Eli, do you recommend bothering to download the images (those that are available) for this? Or is it generally okay to just ignore them?

3. The biggest roadblock here is obviously acquiring RELEVANT links. Of course you can just do all different kinds of techniques on Eli’s blog, etc…to get them. But I’d like to think that there’s an easy way to get a couple backlinks to each subdomain WHEN you publish the content. By the way, if you have 2 links to each of 300 subdomains, is that considered 600 links to the domain?

Eli what do you mean by “How about exploiting natural traffic demand generated by article branding?”

What is article branding? Are you saying that because we are scraping articles from a previous website than that content must inherently be of interest to searchers?

Do you think it will last more than a couple of months before this gets busted by Google?

Man, I wish I knew how to program

this is a great idea!
i just finished to build my scraper…

a few questions:
1) you think i should keep the old layot of the page, or i should just grab the content and ignore the html tags (with some expections - like p, br, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, font, ul ,li)
2) should i keep the original links? right now i’m changing all of the links to: 90% - link to some random page on the site, 10% - outbound link
3) To help SE index my site, i added 5 random links to pages on the top and bottom of each page, and i built HTML Sitemap, and XML Sitemap. is that a good idea ?
4) I changed all the filenames from the original filenames to the page title. So if there was a page called article2.html with the title “Black Hole SEO: The Real Desert Scraping” I’m calling the file “Black_Hole_SEO_The_Real_Desert_Scarping.html”. is that good?
5) Should I wait until the old site is not indexed before I publish my site?

Thanks, Nadav

I really like this website and it makes me wish I’m a programmer so I can understand any of this stuff a bit better.

But I have a question, which probably is the next best thing for a guy like me who really wants to take advantage of these tactics using my own black hat sites…

If I would explain these concepts to a programmer… would he understand it like he should?

“…article, piece of media, or video becomes popular and quickly produces it’s own search volume”

Now this sounds even more interesting.
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excellent example

Eli you always amaze! I have been working non-stop ever since coming across your gold mine of a blog. Your techniques are always orginal and thought provoking, yet sometimes they are just common sense spun with a genius twist.

You convinced me. It is really possible to make a decent income with a website or blog without working with it. I think with your skills and unique tips I will get more traffic and more ways to get money. I will going to monetize as much websites as I can handle.

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I don’t think Google can do anything against subdomains.

thanks for article. good tecnicks

This seems like in interesting way to hijack some search traffic and take advantage of it. It’s a good introduction, to a concept which has a lot of room for us to put our own spin on it to make it work really well. Specifically like Matt was saying about choosing 5 out of the 30K.
Thanks again for a though provoking article!

That is very smart … I am sure Google will hate that type domain

If they innerlink they’re very likely to all get banned.

Is this still applicable today, i.e. an ethical method?

Great Idea!, Can I ask, where did you get the name “desert scraping” from?(How does it link to this method? or isit just a name?)
Anyway, This method as you said can be used for making big ad revenue but personally I think thats all it can be used for, Unless you monitor your content wisly instead of having it automatically create a subdomain directly from the archive which will take up alot of time.
Btw - Whens your next post bluehatseo?
Been digging through your site for some days now. Good work!

talking about other interstellar seo phenomens - there is wormhole seo, black hole seo, and pagerank12 alien seo on my german site

Matt Cutts said recently the scrapers will be soon removed from google index

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“Universal is really useful and I think it will continue to expand and what that means in 2009 you can’t just think of yourself as an SEO,” said Cutts.

Keep in mind that the Google search results page includes organic search results and often paid advertisement (denoted by the heading “Sponsored Links”) as well. Advertising with Google won’t have any effect on your site’s presence in our search results. Google never accepts money to include or rank sites in our search results, and it costs nothing to appear in our organic search results.

This stuff doesn’t work anymore.

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Interestin post. Thanks for that.

Amazing story. Thanks.

Some great, important information here in regards to search engine optimization.

wish i’ve thinked of that earlier

Advertising with Google won’t have any effect on your site’s presence in our search results. Google never accepts money to include or rank sites in our search results, and it costs nothing to appear in our organic search results.

This information is very fruitful. We learn a the techniques you tell above.

Thanks this article, you have a nice blog

Some great, important information here in regards to search engine optimization.

I’d like to know, if you think that your article is still “current” after several years ?

It’s very nice blog, i am impressed……..well done….

Your info is amazing for its users. I am sure readers will be impressed with your ideas.

So this is why Archive.org is the slowest site on the planet!

I can say it with confidence that your blog is differnt from others

I agree to you because Blale Hole Seo is the real desrt scraping. Thanks

I can say it with confidence that your blog is differnt from others

I missed this article. Is this tecnique still working? Anyone tried it?

I tried long time ago and if you do it properly indeed you get interesting stuff out of it. But you need a little knowledge about what you are doing.

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Wow sick!

Nice Idea!

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So Cool! Thanks.

Great guide to advanced SEO Tactics. This is, how it works.

These are great suggestions to implement.

Blue hat seo is better for SERPs.

do not sound so straight forward

Black Hole SEO employs a technique that causes the normal laws of Google Physics to break down. Link juice flows into a massive body, but can never escape.

again- if you don’t script a little proggie for all of this (or have a programmer do it for you) you are out of your mind.
Something tells me our friendly-neighborhood Eli will have a script for sale which (hopefully) does all of this for you.

A Great Post……
Such a Black hole ………..

I’ll try to get this script……..
soon:)

That’s really cool - I use it regulary.

The electronics manufacturing industry is struggling to compete with black market, parallel import, and smuggled goods.

I save tjis blog in bookmarks. It’s realy good!

I never have any idea how to do the things you recommend, but they really are ingenious. When are you going to cash out and invest in real estate or something?

Again good posting….! really this is good cick….!

nice post !! thank for sharing this.

Deserving the authentic information via this post. Thanks

Just another way of harvesting unique content from the web. There’s like tons of ideas like that the only thing is that 90% of SEO lemings doesn’t know a shit how to do this… Cheers on this one mate.

Hi,thanks for sharing the information regarding to search engine optimization.Really you provided very useful information about search engine optimization.Thanks again for sharing the information…

Eli you always amaze! I have been working non-stop ever since coming across your gold mine of a blog. Your techniques are always orginal and thought provoking, yet sometimes they are just common sense spun with a genius twist.

Thanks for Helping…

Great guide to advanced SEO Tactics. This is, how it works

Nice post. Desert Scrapping! lol.

That’s really great…

thats an outstanding idea..

it really is an outstanding idea..

Where do you get all the content from?

Nice Technique Man. Really i love this technique.

Well, I finally g0t this one! Sorry, this pregnancy is messing with my brain big time!

A rather stupid question, but I think many of us new comers would be interested to hear - is this post still relevant? archive.org seems to have stopped archiving anything.

I agree to you because Blale Hole Seo is the real desrt scraping. Thanks

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Interesting information.

Great Information sharing.

This is a really stupid question but what language does the script need to be in?
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targeting other zones than .com that have less/no tasting it can help a lot too!

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This really sounds like a good idea. I must try this scraping out.

Great Information sharing.

Love your blog, you give a interesting aproach to SEO

I just added this weblog to my feed reader, great stuff. Can’t get enough!

This black hole set up seems very powerful. Any real example available : -)?

I think, you can’t use AdSense for these kind of techniques…

“is this post still relevant?”

This is my question, also…

Pretty post,this is a great technique,i am impressed.

I am completely agree with you,It will be a great help for us non programmers.thanks for sharing.

Black hole seo.. pretty interesting post. Thanks for share.

black hole seo! brilliant!

Your above mentioned the all steps really awesome for all users..

I would like to share in recent years, the attempt to redirect search results to particular target pages, in a fashion that is against the search engines’ terms of service, is often considered unethical SEO. White hat methods are generally approved by search engines and follow their guidelines.

I appreciate your hard work and this very informative post.thanks for providing the information.

Impressive comment dude,i also a big fan of this site.

Does this still work??

You are very cleaver. I just NOOB in SEO but enjoy your post.I also pay for service who due black hole SEO on my site. I come back and write detailed report.

This is an interesting article to encourage more visitors.

Thanks for this article. It is very useful, hope you will share with us more.

I understand some of the article but I am not sure if I have the ability or time to do it. If I hire someone to do this for me then it may cost much more for results than I am willing to pay. I prefer PPC cause I know what I am getting for my money.

it was brilliant nobody track easily.

Hmm, that was smart. It would take lots of time any only a few would actually do it, but its worth a go.

I prefer PPC cause I know what I am getting for my money.

Good topic
regards

Very creative idea. I am definitely going to test this out when I get a chance to sit down and write the programming for it… or find a competent programmer on eLance to do it for me.

Verry interesting , thank you

Great post. Black seo has always been a little bit of mystery to me.

I think, you can’t use AdSense for these kind of techniques…

super smashing marvellous

What a fun pattern! It’s great to hear from you and see what you’ve sent up to. All of the projects look great! You make it so simple to this. Thanks

Hey its very intresting,thanks for share
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Don’t create subdomains to save on domain costs. - It’s less than ten dollars a year for fuck sake. Don’t risk trashing a $20/day site and its authority that it took you a year or two to establish to save $10/year.

I prefer PPC cause I know what I am getting for my money.

Another Great Post Eli

I’d second that

Yep it surely is

Yes it is some serious stuff for all internet Marketers

Gr8 work Eli.. and that egypt girl is not spamin anymore heheh ;P

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Cela semble est une technique interessante !

yeah i agree with you.. but will it be workout for all type of websites.

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Thanks for this article, very interesting.

I agree to you because Blale Hole Seo is the real desrt scraping. Thanks

how come i never think of this? great idea on desert scrapping.

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Thank you for this great comment tito

Some wonderful discussions are happening here

Great post Eli
Thank you for the hard work and dedication

I prefer to use double quotation marks when checking to see if an article is in the search engines or not

“*Wink* I may just have hinted at an unique Black Hole SEO way of finding high profit and easy to conquer niches. How about exploiting natural traffic demand generated by article branding?” haha thanks

I agree to you because Blale Hole Seo is the real desrt scraping. Thanks

Oops my above comment was meant for the original Desert scraping post, I should have been looking at the titles more closely.

i must say dessert scraping is so much fun

Well, I finally g0t this one! Sorry, this pregnancy is messing with my brain big time!
thanks

can i not use apache config in this?