This has officially become my favorite blog.

The hosting bit will work great in many cases for email marketers also. Even doing legit double opt-in email marketing produces tons of complaints. This will probably stop 90% of the complaints to hosts.

bhahahaha

A lot of the Russian Spammers use a similar technique these days.

Spam the shit out of their domain with something like Xrumer before they even register it. Then when it all blows over, they register the domain & it has thousands of backlinks ready to go

Stu

Shhh…….you’re about to give away a portion of a future post

A competitor might be useful, but I personally enjoy using Digg.com’s Adsense account because I like to believe the Adsense team gets a chuckle out of getting a complaint about them.

Fucking classic Eli! Great post as usual, I love it! Thanks again for the awesome posts.

I love this blog Eli. No-one provides really useful info like this. Keep up the great work, you’re helping make my dreams a reality.

Or use https to fake it:
[2] https://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads

This is offtopic, but does anyone know how to get into ask?

Shhhhhh! Don’t give away my project details Especially don’t give away the details on how I plan to try and use that strategy in conjunction with the 4.5 day “trial” on domains that was mentioned a coupla posts ago

You just sparked the seeds of a new project afmatt. Thanks bud

Cool tip

I hate ask. Just go in naturally is my only advice. Whatever you do DON’T do paid inclusion. because then they will no longer crawl your entire site. They will force you to pay for every page you want to include. They will also prevent you from ranking if you are paid inclusion in an attempt to get you to pay more. I found this out the hard way.
All my other sites are in ask and ranking and are fully indexed, but the site i paid to put in over 4 years ago still only has the main page indexed and refuses to rank for anything even though it ranks in the top 10 in all the other engines.
I asked them about it and they said too bad if i want any more pages in on that domain i have to pay for them now.

Fuckin scam artists.

I just did a bit of modding to the comments.php. So now the new comments for the day will be automatically highlighted. Locating the new comments within the new nested comments system wasn’t working out so great so now they are highlighted. YAY!

I like it much better this way.

thanks for the mod eli - without it things were getting a tad bit confusing for someone as simple minded as me ;D

no problem man, just make sure to either blog about your experience or at least shoot me an email so I know how it goes

Way good Eli. I’ve been needing just such an idea. I don’t do the adsense bit, but I already have a dummy hosting website.

Haha, very nice trick indeed. As always looking forward to your next post.

Have a good 2007, you all!

FUCKING AWESOME!! - not much else to say. lol

okay i got a couple emails from ppl asking what “Nark” means. I had no idea that it wasn’t a common expression. I just assumed everyone knew what it was, so I’ll explain it for future readers that may have the same question.

From my understanding:
Nark is short for narcotics agent(a cop who pretends to be a drug dealer in order to bust other drug dealers). Which is also known as a snitch. As far as slang goes; it basically means a tattle-tale or a person who enjoys getting others in trouble when they do something wrong.

Does that help?

hehe - Obviously some folks don’t watch enough crime related TV shows

Or weren’t arrested enough in highschool

This method won’t get around the usual way of reporting adsense on web spam pages, by clicking the “Ads by Google” link on the ads and then filling in the form on “Send Google your thoughts on the site or the ads you just saw”.

Yeah - but every little bit helps eh?

What about adding an additional layer of protection by loading the iframe part after the page has been loaded (with javascript onload)?
Even better, checking the dns of the caller to see if it is a google bot/employee and then not displaying it (or making the fake adsense info disappear).

Hey, great blog, just found it. I love the SEO world and your blog is a must read.

Dealing With Those Pesky Narks

Very clever way for Blackhatters to avoid having their hosting cancelled

hey rose water

to get into ask.. reg a free acc with bloglinesdotcom and add your rss feeds there.. it will work.. hush hush

if you need any help just caugh 47 times and i’ll send the angels your way

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Eli.. THE best blog in my book!!! keep rockin’ mate!!!

Sam,
Feel free to post the details of that technique in the contribute area
Soon I’m going to post seostomps’ post about getting into ask quickly. it’d be awesome to have two different ideas of how to accomplish the same thing in one post.

Hi Eli,

Awesome blog pal! It rocks,really! Always eager for your next post! =)

I have one question on this…when you insert your adsense ads in the iframe (your real adsense pub id is displayed on those HTML external pages you mentioned) what about the source code?

If u have 3 iframes for instance u just plug the “hijacked” pub id and that´s it? Is there a way they could get to know the real ID on those HTML?

Just want to make sure that your ID is not accesible =)

Let me comment from a web host’s perspective:

If the hosting company is not willing to take action, you can just do an ipwhois lookup and contact the datacenter’s abuse department directly.

From our experience, phishing sites or compromised hosting accounts sending spam usually get shut down very quickly - within hours. (That’s of course provided that the server is not located in Russia or China.)

How it works: once they receive a complaint, the datacenter’s abuse department will contact the owner of the server (hosting company) requesting to shut down the offending account within 1-24 hours (depending on their policies) or in some cases will even attempt to login to the server themselves and disable the site. If the host does not take action, the datacenter will simply disconnect the whole server or null-route the IP for terms of service violation.

Usually even if a minor complaint is received, the datacenter’s abuse staff will still pass the information on to the hosting company.

Now do you think …
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?
2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?

Excellent Comment!

Thanks for dropping that by us.
To answer your questions
Now do you think …
1) the owner of the shared hosting server will want to risk getting the whole server disconnected?
2) most tech bloggers really do not know how to do an IPWHOIS lookup ?
Absolutely not. Shared hosts would gladly drop a client to save the server and to save face with the datacenter. Its just common sense business. Thats why spammers consider it vital to prevent as many complaints to their host and their hosts datacenter as possible. Spam profits come from two factors, Flow and Lifespan. Flow is how much consistant money the spam is making over a given period of time. The lifespan is how long the spam will continue making money before it gets shut down. Increasing any of the two factors decreases the potential of profit loss on a spam project. If you can’t be bulletproof than you are forced to deal with percentages. If its inescapable that the project will die after 7 days than you have no choice but to attempt to increase the flow percentages per site to increase profits. Likewise if you’re dealing with a fixed flow than you have no choice but to do everything possible to increase your lifespan. Only a certain percentage of tech bloggers (not to single them out) will do a ipwhois. If you weed out the others(the ones who report directly to the host) than you are increasing your chances for a higher lifespan across your spam network. Which means more profits.

The reality of the situation is no one is untouchable (with icann running the show at least). So you can understand from a spammers point of view of why its worthless to worry about the ultimate goal of becoming bulletproof. Percentages are where the money is at, not the dream of being untouchable. Every successful blackhatter in the world will tell you quantity is the golden key to blackhat. That is because creating a continuous quantity of sites is the closest a spammer can come to having an infinitely lifespan with the obvious constringent of continual reinvestments of course. Its this misconception that feeds untrue ideas like, “Blackhat is temporary.” “Blackhat is for a quick buck.”
To dig at what I really thinking you were poking at is the statement in the post that says “Your hosting is never the wiser and still happy because they don’t have to hear about your complaints.” To put your mind at ease, that was written in a joking way. It obviously wasn’t meant to get ppl thinking that if the host found out what was going on they will be happy about it because they didn’t have to read any of the spam complaints. I think its pretty obvious that they will be quite pissed as a matter of fact.

Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network?

Very crafty indeed.

I would suggest some chinese based server providers such as: [3] http://www.7×24.cn/english/en-dedicated.htm or any other.

These chinese people really don’t care about spam complaints.

as always great post.. keep it up… digg… lol

i love the idea of your own hosting company to get your own complaints… brilliant

You have greates idea Is there any way to mask affiliate links from affiliate network? Very crafty indeed.

Great post once again. I use frames anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.

I feel safer now..

Great post once again. I use frames and iframes anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.

You have become my fav SEO guru man. Hats off to you…hahaha

Nice seo tactics. But I don’t see you posting more. Maybe you are actually carrying out these tactics. Write more!

Ben

I will never your idealist thoughts. Thanks

Really like the Fake Hosting tactic. Can be useful to hide or at least keep a white hat sites network as low profile and under the radar as possible.

Great to see that your back.

Moarrrrr great posts please!

really good seo strategy your blog keep it

Coding in the middle of content is really characteristic.

Don’t use Digg’s because then it’s obviously been redirected. Use another tech blogger’s.

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Hahaha, good one! OK, I don’t do spamming, but the idea of using the name servers is a good one that I might use to mask some of my sites…

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Coding in the middle of content. Looks awesome. But I have a technology site that features laptops, notebooks, netbooks, desktops, pc gadgets. Do you think this technique will work. Many thanks!

I love this blog Eli. No-one provides really useful info like this.

I love your site. And apparently I suck at math, because my stuff got reverted. Wish I would have known when I hit the back button it would delete my note to you, but just wanted to say thanks for this blog. I always wondered about black hat but never knew how to find a ‘black hatter’ you rock.

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I’m planning to start running a blog. I’ve heard that the blog platforms matters a whole lot. I must say i love just how your website is visually and all the features it’s got. Can you please share with me which blog platform you’re employing.

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6Nice one, there is actually some good points on this blog some of my readers may find this useful, I must send a link, many thanks.

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Just wanted to ask. Do you do any training or consulting? Would be interested in getting more help from you if you’re available.

Great site, thanks for the backlink!

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No idea if this method still works, but I shall certainly implement it on my money sites!

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I use frames anyway to maintain my menu on my larger adsense sites so I will try this.

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Then make a fake hosting company. Make a nice little website for it and a domain and be sure to make it unusuable.

sorry, why do you mask out your adsense code? what is it for?

It is such a pain to see so many spams nowadays.

Lol Sam, you are so rock!

There are so many Wordpress plugins available to help you in doing so!

Sound great
Can I guest blog here?

yeah I don’t like narks too, they can be damn annoying.

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hen make a fake hosting company. Make a nice little website for it and a domain and be sure to make it unusuable.

You just sparked the seeds of a new project afmatt. Thanks bud