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Lock Stock and Two Smoking Niches

Posted By Eli On November 3, 2006 @ 6:04 am In General Articles | 57 Comments

I heard something on a forum the other day about all the niches becoming saturated with heavy competition. Just wanted to say sorry about that :) haha just kidding. Are there any niches out there that are still wide open? Hell fuckin yeah is my answer to that, but how about something tangible? Well there are certain niches that are always bringing in new niches of their own. So if you’re really caught between a rock and hard place here is a few ideas to get you off your feet. Two off the top of my head involve the celeb business and the music industry.

Never Ending Music Niches
New hip hop artists and rock bands come out all the time. If you manage to score a niche website for one right before they hit MTV or something you got some serious bank coming your way. Pics, Music videos, bio, mp3 downloads(if legal) damn if isn’t all good in the biz. Making money is just as easy as the content. Affilliate links to buying their cds, posters, merchandise. Keep your eyes peeled and glued on the tv and magazines for these new niches. They will make you serious money faster than you could imagine. While I’m on the topic… I hate to point out the obvious but why the has has hardly anyone considered scraping Myspace for bands? Its a beautiful world where the bands promote themselves and all you got to do is be there and yet I can’t find a single other person doing this. One more thought for you blackhatters: Scrape the band names and put them into a subdomain on a music site. Grab some attention and enjoy the traffic flow. Then monitor when their profile scores so when they get so many “plays” or when they reach between a certain value than add them to a list to steal an actual domain for thier name.

Never Ending Movie Niches
There is two that fall into this category. First and foremost is new movies. Oldest technique in the book is to watch for celebs to accidentally release the name of a movie before it comes out with a trailer. Snag the domain and put it up. This is why Sony quit buying domains for their movies and started putting them up at Sony.com/moviename. It works too damn well and is too damn easy for someone not to monotenize. This comes in most useful if you are good at getting indexed quickly and enjoy stuff like SEO contests. The traffic is quick and hard, but will also consistently last you for a couple years after.

The second niche in this category is obviously brand new actresses and actors. It wasn’t until Spiderman that Toby Mcguire started getting massive searches. This niche is especially easy because most ppl are simply looking for pictures and love clicking around to find them(Adsense and image search). BIO information makes for easy content. The only thing you have to compete with are other douche bags and bloggers that have the same name. They hate the new found traffic and you want it. This makes an easy sell for a link on their websites.

There are tons more niches that fall into this category. Too damn many to name in a single post, but I hope this gave you a few ideas. So before you start getting frustrated with being beaten to every niche consider the ones like the above that will keep you busy until your old.

Sorry I have to quit typing because I have a monstorous sneeze coming on….
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57 Comments To "Lock Stock and Two Smoking Niches"

#1 Comment By Aur On November 3, 2006 @ 9:11 am

Actually, I am working on trying to automate Myspace contacts.

Before last summer, there was not much check, only a hard limit of people you could contact everyday, but now it is getting more complicated.
Anyway, at my company, we are using a tool for automatic website testing and I think it can be used for automatic blackhat tasks on websites. When it works, I can write a article on it if you are interested.

About Myspace, I will probably try the “create a search directory” technique, because bands are striving to get exposure, and any free exposure would attract massive response.
To sum up, I’ll create a “band search” directory, propose free temporary links to bands in my directory, in exchange of a link from them, and when I have enough traffic, I can start selling permanent spots on this directory.

If you want, I’ll update you on my progress, my only concern is that usually most bands have no money to spend, so I am afraid that the response for paid links will be very low.

You take a baker, an hairdresser, a butcher, they all know they need to take risk, invest money to have their shop, starting selling and reimbursing their loan while making a living with their skill.
You take a band, they are just putting all their effort to get ebough buzz so that some record companies will take all the risks for them (and all the money also)
This sums up the problem with band, and why it is very difficult in my opinion to make money from them…

If anyone has good ideas on making money from bands, it would be nice to share them!

For those who read this message until the end, here is a tip with myspace: Once registered, you can ask anyone to be your “friend”, the positive response is usually more than 50%, people don’t care. Then you can post a message to your friend. It can be something as simple as “Hello, I wish you a very good day”. Most people don’t care. The great thing is that you can put html in your message, most people didn’t change the option to prevent html, so you can put a link to your website, and it will get indexed in google. Just imagine, with an automatic system (what I’m working on) there are more than one hundred million pages where you could try to comment spam, and as long as you’re not trying to sell viagra or those craps, nobody will care.

Even better, Myspace pages contents are updated by people themselves, and some of them are very lively (good for google indexing). There is usually so much html crap on those pagesm that if you comment spam one of them, and you’re not too blatant, you won’t get detected by the owner of the page, and you’ll get a good value link from an ever active page.

#2 Comment By phil On November 3, 2006 @ 1:49 pm

Nice post, I thought I was the only one that had thought of these ideas. Here are some more ideas to niche finding:

- US patent office
- technology / science /bleeding edge technical journals

Something you already covered…popular culture, there is always going to be new stuff in the world, so get content building on it!

#3 Comment By Chad On November 3, 2006 @ 3:53 pm

Excellent blog. I just found you a couple of days ago and the information you have here is incredible. You’ve definitely earned a spot on my Google homepage. Keep it up.

#4 Comment By Eli On November 3, 2006 @ 4:25 pm

Aur,
Definitely good advice. If any of you didn’t bother reading that comment through I strongly suggest you do. Also I would love to get an article from you on the topic. That would be great and I would be more than happy to publish it and give you a link.

Phil, Those are two very excellent ideas. I remember an old popular science I read that was talking about compact disks(cds for short) and how they were going to someday replace tapes and become the standard. It was a little too far fetched for me to believe. Those magazines and patient offices are guaranteed to hold the new “big thing” every once in awhile. So next time you hearing them talking about the new standard consider buying a toplevel domain for it.

Chad,
Welcome aboard buddy. I am stoked that we are google worthy.

#5 Comment By Seostomp On November 3, 2006 @ 4:58 pm

The movie idea is excellent. I have been monitoring a few sites that publish movie production facts etc. for the last year n 1/2. Just haven’t really done anything with it yet. I think you just gave me the kick in the ass that I needed Eli. Thanks for the blog dude.

#6 Comment By Seostomp On November 3, 2006 @ 4:59 pm

Almost forgot. Great movie reference there brother.

#7 Comment By Bradlee On November 3, 2006 @ 5:36 pm

YEP! Any popular cultural icon or event can be a great niche. And with a little work you can get lucky and predict a hot one. World series, superbowl, movies, plays, bands, sporting events, hurricanes, fashion designs and designers, Christmas, Halloween, Anniverseries of big events (9/11). If you run out of niche ideas you must have your eyes closed, ears plugged, and live in a cave. TV shows! Every fall there are dozens of new ones. Each worth at least a sub domain with a forum, i’d say.

#8 Comment By Eli On November 3, 2006 @ 5:45 pm

seostomp, thanks yeah i love that movie. If anyone here hasn’t seen lock stock, snatch or lay4red cake i strongly suggest you check em out.

Bradlee, oh fuck yeah! you could not be more right. Especially with the 911 type stuff. Quick story for ya. I used to have a pet hamster in my dorm room in college. His name was Osama. Everyone always asked me why osama and i was shocked that no one had ever heard of Osama bin laden, one of the biggest terrorists in the world. Everyone just thought i was weird for naming a pet after some no name terrorist. Then 911 happened. Suddenly EVERYONE knew who osama was and I had to change his name cus ppl wouldn’t quit harassing me about him and being unamerican. Imagine having a website about him made right before 9/11.

#9 Comment By Eli On November 3, 2006 @ 5:52 pm

OH one more thing i should probably mention. How about celeb nip slips? haha hey its news. When a celeb accidently flashes a giant crowd at the superbowl quickly throw up a domain for it and get it indexed. Guaranteed for the next few months you’ll be slammed with more traffic than your server can handle.

#10 Comment By Aur On November 3, 2006 @ 6:50 pm

Sure no problem, I’ll keep you updates about my project.

I had a question… When it comes to buy a toplevel domain, what do you think about .net or .org compared to .com ?
Any experience to share?

For instance, there’s just been a big award for a writer in France (yes I’m french, and by seeing your photo from the parisian metro, I guess you’re too…). His name is Jonathan Littell, and he was unknown but now he is getting a lot of exposure thanks to his prize. I was looking and JonathanLittell.com is already taken, but not the .net or .org
How could you assess if it is worth investing?

#11 Comment By Eli On November 3, 2006 @ 7:04 pm

Aur,
I’m lookin forward to the updates. In my experience i love the .coms but .net and .org makes a great substitute if the .com is already taken. I would definitely grab up the .net or .org for that guys name if i were you. I’m actually Italian incase you were wondering(thats not me in the photo), but its great to see some faces from around the world on this blog. Eitherway you couldn’t go wrong with just investing the 2.95/year for the domain and then just parking it on a domain sponsor. Very rarely is a niche like that, when available, not worth the small bucks for the domain.

#12 Comment By Aur On November 4, 2006 @ 10:21 am

I like your picture from the parisian metro! I think this is why I started to read your blog at first :)

Where do you get domain name for $2.95 ?

#13 Comment By elhoim On November 6, 2006 @ 7:34 am

I would be interested by the 2.95$ registrar, if being for com/net/org!

#14 Comment By scott reyns On November 8, 2006 @ 11:31 pm

yes, don’t expect to make $ from bands, at least not without a very, very clever new angle. myspace is a brand land of bots talking to bots, a perfect example of how more wired can becoem more disconnected. hard to directly monitize on any size budget. from what i’ve seen, people trying to game it almost invariably aren’t selling music, what they’re selling are fake girly profiles to lure young lads to webcam sites they can jack off to.

celeb nip slips etc. would also be hard to monetize i should think. optimizing to get the attention of the voyeurism flavor of the day is one thing, but unless one’s got a pay-per-impressions cut worked out with advertisers, getting the peepers to click is quite another. maybe that’s why we see, for example, so few people bidding on longstanding popular queries such as “paris hilton.”

as for scraping myspace bands… it would have to be the bands that are in demand to be of any use which rules out 99.9% of them. scraping content that’s not in demand is duplicating marketless product that’s having trouble justifying that it already exists somewhere in the first place.

let me know if/when you’ve scraped mine, and looking forward to keeping up with how the directory project pans out. but yeah… most of us are dirt poor and in the rare moments when we’re not it goes away fast on things other than web marketing anyway. :)

cheers [sr]

#15 Comment By George On November 28, 2006 @ 5:06 am

How big is a niche, anyway? Is a niche definied by specificity or size?

I remember some marketing email I received touting the potential profits to be made in the “health niche,” and I remember thinking to myself that “health” is way way too big to be a niche.

Brand names are (in my experience) usually far easier to rank for than general terms. New brands of skin care products and supplements.

I work in the “Health niche” so I pay attention to the news about discoveries of antioxidant compounds, like resveratrol, and try to rank for them.

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I would of kept the name just to be funny.

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#19 Comment By table tennis conversion tops On November 10, 2009 @ 3:53 am

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#20 Comment By table tennis conversion tops On November 10, 2009 @ 3:56 am

Always go for the misspell, little as 40% of the traffic will be this

#21 Comment By table tennis conversion tops On November 10, 2009 @ 3:57 am

When these events happen I always forget to grab the dot com, only afterwards do I remember and by then only the dot us is left

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Too right Bradley, the net niche market is your oyster, go and shuck it!

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